Wall moderation is a fickle beast.  For example, many, many fractal walls go straight to personal pages or rejected because while they may be fine enough, they take very little skill or time to create, and after a while . . . all look the same.  Maybe WC isn't the place to upload those, eh?  

The walls moderation is probably the most personal of the galleries.  It's not like a wallpaper can not work like a WB or DX widget.

The walls I speak of are not fractals, which seem to be popular. It shouldn't be about how much skill is needed to produce the wall, or how long it takes. That's absurd! It should be about QUALITY and usability. All the mods should moderate by the same guidlines so that there is uniformity in what is passed, and what is failed. BTW, if I knew what was wrong with them, could I correct them and reup? Someone suggested that they would not go back thru moderation.

The fractal situation was just an example of why wall moderation is different.  The fact is that WC isn't a wallpaper site . . it's a skinning site and walls are a part of that and should be included (but maybe to a lesser degree).

With skins for WB, any mod can check for the same things: Does it work?  Is everything skinned?  Is it usable?  And finally does it look good?  For walls it's mostly: Is is a valid resolution?  Is it usable?  Does it look good?

Walls, by definition, are more about personal taste (the artist's, the moderator's, and the user's).  That's why most are reviewed by more than one mod and there's more discussion about them (and why they sometimes take longer to go through moderation).

You know, it's not fair to single out the work of someone else, who has done nothing wrong, for comparison. That image should be removed to protect the person involved.

This thread is disappointing. It's not what I expect from a WinCustomize Apprentice 

I agree.

IF a wall is overly simple to create/reproduce the issue is that it is VERY likely to be repeated.

One of the 'old rules of wall moderation' [sins] was called 'the blue swirlie'.  They were a no-no, not because someone didn't like blue.....or swirls....but in fact because most people prefer walls in blue ....and a 'swirl' is about the simplest 'filter'/function you can apply to an image.

We get a few per week submitted....and if they're lucky they get as far as PP.

Fractals are essentially point-and-click-go-make-a-coffee-come-back-and-upload-the-result...and can be 'made' as quickly as your CPU allows.  Some look OK, actually...but most are repetitive and are only slight deviations from the default/predictable.

In order to save people from having to wade through a bottomless sea of repetition in the gallery there'll be a tendency to redirect the 'flood' to the Personal Pages.

Re fractals....I remember my seeing the first one....and being amazed by the mathematics that it represented/generated...that the closer you focus in/enlarge it....the more it's repeated.  Did I rush off and declare it/they make brilliant walls?....er....no....

When wanting to make comparisons like this thread please avoid dragging a fellow member into it for no good reason.

Questions on skin comparisons are best done by PM to the moderator of that gallery and not in the forums. By singling out member in the comparison it just creates ill will, which I‘m sure was not your intention.

Being stuck in Sacramento for a month is having an effect on me.. I must be too close to the Govenator.




I was under the impression both walls were of the same creator, my bad. Yes tis improper to use another artist's items for comparison unless they have offered consent.

I agree, and I will remove it if I have the ability. I like the other person's work. I just wanted to try to point out that I think WC needs a better method of wallpaper evaluation. Just my opinion. Thanx to all who have answered this post. I will not speak of it again.   

I agree, did not see that, I will issue an apology to the artist, who does very good work IMO. I am sorry. It was not my intention to do him harm.

"Wall moderation is a fickle beast. For example, many, many fractal walls go straight to personal pages or rejected because while they may be fine enough, they take very little skill or time to create, and after a while . . . all look the same. Maybe WC isn't the place to upload those, eh?

The walls moderation is probably the most personal of the galleries. It's not like a wallpaper can not work like a WB or DX widget."

I really take issue with this in regards to Apo flame fractals. You need a lot of skill and patience to tweak a flame into a usable image. I spend hours on each image I make and each one is unique. They do not all look alike.

If anyone thinks this is the case, I challenge you to try Apo and see if it is as simple as "point and click". Flame fractals are a different animal.

So, fellow Apoists, what say ye to this statement?

Please do not take offense to this but felt I had to state my case.

I wish I hadn't started this. It wasn't meant to go this way.   

I think it's still a good discussion.  Thanks for removing the images.  Makes it easier. 

Frankief, again, the fractals example was *just* an example.  There are always exceptions.  

I just checked your personal gallery Frankief. I am shocked to see that most of the walls at page 1st only show in your personal gallery even though they deserve a lot. Its naturally a bit disapponting but you should keep them coming because there are many people who will check your gallery and praise your work cause it deserves it.

Gaaaaaaads!

  I was stuck in Natomas for 2 years!